Even as the US recovers from the worst days of the COVID-19 pandemic, many cities continue to see substantial weakness in commercial office space utilization. The expert panel discusses research findings that reflect the slow return of employees to offices, which cities’ tax revenues may be most vulnerable, and what solutions are being deployed to adapt to the new workplace reality. Our panel of experts includes Nick Bloom, William Eberle Professor of Economics, Stanford University, and co-founder, WFH Research; Andrew S. Rein, president, Citizens Budget Commission; Stijn Van Nieuwerburgh, Earle W. Kazis and Benjamin Schore Professor of Real Estate, Columbia Business School; and Lauren Weber, reporter, the Wall Street Journal.

Notable Quotes:

 “...there are four reasons why people have been going hybrid. The first is employees really like it. If you survey employees, which I’ve been doing in multiple waves, they report that getting to work from home 2-3 days a week is about the same as a 5-10% pay increase.” - Nick Bloom

 “Office tenants have to make multi-years commitments when they sign a new lease, and what the data shows so far is about a 10% drop in revenue on all active leases between the end of 2019 and the end of 2021.” - Stijn Van Nieuwerburgh 

“380,000 Manhattan workers live elsewhere in New York State, so there’s a question of that shift in economic activity. Doesn’t hurt the state necessarily, but it hurts the city. Also, 380,000 live in New Jersey and Connecticut, and that is where that change in economic activity is going to hit the city fisc and the state fisc.” - Andrew Rein

 “I think a huge issue is that many workers just feel that no one has made a case to them about why they should be back in the office, and I think that’s especially the case for younger people, who don’t necessarily want to be told what to do.” - Lauren Weber 

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